{"id":1252,"date":"2022-11-20T19:58:08","date_gmt":"2022-11-20T19:58:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/?p=1252"},"modified":"2024-07-15T22:01:04","modified_gmt":"2024-07-15T19:01:04","slug":"ricardas-sumila-didziausias-dziaugsmas-gerai-pavykes-spektaklis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/index.php\/2022\/11\/20\/ricardas-sumila-didziausias-dziaugsmas-gerai-pavykes-spektaklis\/","title":{"rendered":"Ri\u010dardas \u0160umila: \u201eDid\u017eiausias d\u017eiaugsmas \u2013 gerai pavyk\u0119s spektaklis\u201c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>\u201eGerai pavyk\u0119s spektaklis yra tuomet, kai jam pasibaigus supranti, kad k\u0105 tik \u012fvyko ka\u017ekas \u012fsp\u016bdingo, ko negali apsakyti \u017eod\u017eiais, tik patiri neapsakom\u0105 d\u017eiaugsm\u0105\u201c, \u2013 sako Lietuvos operos ir baleto teatro vyriausiasis dirigentas Ri\u010dardas \u0160umila (g. 1984), prisimindamas ne tik spektakli\u0173, bet ir paramos Ukrainai koncerto, vykusio Operos ir baleto teatre, metu i\u0161gyventas jautrias akimirkas. \u0160iandien maestro dalinasi mintimis apie naujus i\u0161\u0161\u016bkius teatrui, menininkams ir visai kult\u016brinei erdvei, kurios kryptis ir trajektorijas dabar kei\u010dia n\u016bdienos tikrov\u0117. Prie partit\u016bromis nukloto dirigento darbo stalo kalb\u0117jom\u0117s apie prasm\u0119 karo beprasmyb\u0117s akivaizdoje, nepalenkiam\u0105 tik\u0117jim\u0105 savo pa\u0161aukimu, profesijos subtilybes ir i\u0161\u0161\u016bkius, d\u017eiugesiu pripildytas k\u016brybines akimirkas, kuri\u0173 atgarsiai neabejotinai pasiekia \u017ei\u016brov\u0173 ir klausytoj\u0173 \u0161irdis. O tai, pasak maestro, \u012fvyksta tuomet, kai ne tik pats diriguoji, bet ir leidiesi vedamas Jo \u2013 Auk\u0161\u010diausiojo.<\/em><\/p><p><strong>Pokalbiui susitinkame jau kur\u012f laik\u0105 Ukrainoje vykstan\u010dio karo akivaizdoje, tad nat\u016bralu, kad pirmas klausimas&nbsp;\u2013 kokios emocijos, kokia reakcija buvo i\u0161girdus \u017eini\u0105 apie prasid\u0117jus\u012f kar\u0105?<\/strong><\/p><p>T\u0105 ryt\u0105, kai prasid\u0117jo karas, dirbau prie partit\u016br\u0173 ir dar nebuvau sp\u0117j\u0119s patikrinti jokios medijos, kuomet at\u0117jusi mano \u017emona Radvil\u0117 paklaus\u0117: \u201eAr matei, kas vyksta?\u201c Pirma reakcija&nbsp;\u2013 atmetimas, negal\u0117jau priimti fakto, kad prasid\u0117jo karas, tiesiog band\u017eiau vis\u0105 dien\u0105 susivokti, kas i\u0161 ties\u0173 vyksta. O kai prad\u0117jau \u012fsis\u0105moninti, kad tai realu, kai vaizdo \u012fra\u0161uose pama\u010diau bombardavimus ir \u017emoni\u0173 panik\u0105, pasidar\u0117 labai baisu, kilo daug \u012fvairi\u0173 emocij\u0173, kurias dabar b\u016bt\u0173 net sunku apib\u016bdinti. Kai pagaliau suvokiau situacij\u0105, atsirado ka\u017ekoks beprasmyb\u0117s jausmas, atrod\u0117, kad viskas, k\u0105 darau, neturi prasm\u0117s. Tuo metu studijavau spektakli\u0173 partit\u016bras, ruo\u0161iausi repeticijoms, ta\u010diau at\u0117j\u0119s repetuoti su kolektyvu, supratau, kad nejau\u010diu jokio entuziazmo, kilo mintys: k\u0105 mes \u010dia darom, kod\u0117l reikia ka\u017ek\u0105 daryti\u2026 Viskas pasikeit\u0117, kai vos po savait\u0117s atsirado galimyb\u0117 prisid\u0117ti prie Lietuvos operos ir baleto teatre surengto paramos Ukrainai koncerto \u201eStipr\u016bs kartu\u201c (\u201eStrong together\u201c). Koncerto id\u0117j\u0105 patvirtinom per trumpiausi\u0105 \u012fmanom\u0105 laik\u0105, o rengin\u012f suorganizavom vos per penkias dienas, nors paprastai tam reik\u0117t\u0173 pus\u0117s met\u0173.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\" id=\"attachment_22434\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-2048x1366.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-2000x1334.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-24x16.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-36x24.jpg 36w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-48x32.jpg 48w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/11.-Repeticija-LNOBT-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1200x801.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Repeticija LNOBT, 2021 m., Martyno Aleksos nuotrauka<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>\u0160is renginys tarsi paneigia visiems gerai \u017einom\u0105 posak\u012f \u201ekai ginklai \u017evanga, m\u016bzos tyli\u201c. Pana\u0161u, kad yra prie\u0161ingai: LNOBT vyk\u0119s koncertas \u201eStipr\u016bs kartu\u201c muzikos garsais skleid\u0117 ai\u0161ki\u0105 \u017eini\u0105 apie stipryb\u0119 bendryst\u0117je, ukrainie\u010di\u0173 tautos palaikym\u0105 ne tik gynybine, ekonomine, bet ir kult\u016brine prasme. Koncertui buvo surinktos didel\u0117s paj\u0117gos, dalyvavo ne tik Lietuvos, bet ir Ukrainos muzikantai. Kaip apskritai gim\u0117 tokia iniciatyva?<\/strong><\/p><p>Koncerto id\u0117ja kilo re\u017eisieriui Viliui Kerui, jis pasak\u0117, kad Vokietijos televizijoje atsirado laisvas eterio laikas, kuris prie\u0161 tai buvo numatytas rus\u0173 dirigento Valerijaus Gergijevo koncertui. Prodiuserin\u0117 kompanija nor\u0117jo t\u0105 laik\u0105 skirti kam nors i\u0161 Pabaltijo, kas gal\u0117t\u0173 surengti koncert\u0105 Ukrainai. Taigi, mes labai greitai susid\u0117liojom koncept\u0105 ir pasi\u016bl\u0117m organizatoriams rengin\u012f daryti kovo 11 d., kuri mums itin svarbi. I\u0161syk kilo mintis, kad koncerto programa gal\u0117t\u0173 b\u016bti ir lietuvi\u0161ka, ir ukrainieti\u0161ka. Reikia pasakyti, kad j\u0105 pavyko sud\u0117lioti ne\u012ftik\u0117tinai greitai.<\/p><p><strong>Koks buvo J\u016bs\u0173, kaip vyriausiojo teatro dirigento, ind\u0117lis \u012f \u0161io koncerto programos koncepcij\u0105, jos sudarym\u0105?<\/strong><\/p><p>Mano atsakomyb\u0117 buvo ukrainieti\u0161kos muzikos paie\u0161kos. I\u0161 prad\u017ei\u0173 kilo problem\u0173 su ukrainieti\u0161k\u0173 k\u016brini\u0173 natomis&nbsp;\u2013 kur ir kaip jas gauti? Ra\u0161\u0117m lai\u0161kus, skambinom \u012f Ukrainos teatrus ir klaus\u0117m, koki\u0105 program\u0105 jie rekomenduot\u0173 vienam ir kitam balsui, kokie k\u016briniai gal\u0117t\u0173 skamb\u0117ti \u0161iame koncerte. Kai surinkom reikiam\u0105 k\u016brini\u0173 palet\u0119, gan greitai j\u0105 perklausiau ir tuomet patvirtinom.<\/p><p><strong>Per tok\u012f trump\u0105 laik\u0105 reik\u0117jo ne tik sudaryti program\u0105, bet ir sukviesti atlik\u0117jus, visk\u0105 surepetuoti\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p>Taip, vos per tris dienas tur\u0117jom parengti koncerto prog\u00adra\u00adm\u0105, visas natas surinkti, surepetuoti\u2026 Kvie\u010diant atlik\u0117jus, \u017einoma, pagelb\u0117jo agent\u016bros, taip pat ir manoji, nes ji atstovauja ir garsiai ukrainie\u010di\u0173 dirigentei Oksanai Lyniv. Paklausiau savo agent\u0117s, ar Oksana gal\u0117t\u0173 atskristi \u012f Lietuv\u0105, ta\u010diau ji atsak\u0117, kad nors Oksana atvykti negali, yra dar keletas dirigen\u010di\u0173, kurias ji rekomenduot\u0173.Taip pas mus atvyko Odesos operos teatro dirigent\u0117 Marharyta Hrynyvetska. Be to, pana\u0161iu keliu atsirado ir viena solist\u0117. Taigi, viskas ka\u017ekaip greitai sukibo, susid\u0117liojo. Visi buvo labai geranori\u0161ki, daugyb\u0117 \u017emoni\u0173 prie \u0161io koncerto prisid\u0117jo nemokamai&nbsp;\u2013 \u0161tai kompozitor\u0117 \u017dibuokl\u0117 Martinaityt\u0117 pasir\u016bpino, kad leid\u0117jas atsi\u0173st\u0173 jos k\u016brinio natas.<\/p><p>Atsiradus galimybei organizuoti t\u0105 koncert\u0105 i\u0161kart pasikeit\u0117 ir mano vidin\u0117 b\u016bsena: atsirado did\u017eiul\u0117 prasm\u0117, organizacinis \u012fkv\u0117pimas, nor\u0117josi dirbti ir neskai\u010diavau tam darbui skirto laiko&nbsp;\u2013 galb\u016bt d\u0117l to viskas taip skland\u017eiai ir susid\u0117liojo.<\/p><p><strong>Pasauliui sureagavus \u012f Rusijos prad\u0117t\u0105 kar\u0105 ekonomin\u0117mis sankcijomis, nuo\u0161alyje neliko ir kult\u016bros pasaulis. Neseniai Meno k\u016br\u0117j\u0173 asociacija i\u0161platino parei\u0161kim\u0105, si\u016blant\u012f Lietuvoje visi\u0161kai \u201eu\u017edaryti dang\u0173 rusi\u0161kai kult\u016brai ir menui &lt;\u2026&gt; iki bus i\u0161vestas paskutinis agresoriaus kareivis\u201c. Kokia J\u016bs\u0173, kaip menininko, pozicija \u0161iuo klausimu?<\/strong><\/p><p>Man atrodo, kad daugelis Rusijoje gyvenan\u010di\u0173 \u017emoni\u0173 yra paveikti propagandos. Vis d\u0117lto kiekvienoje tautoje yra \u017emoni\u0173, kurie tikrai puikiai visk\u0105 suvokia ir geba nuo tos propagandos atsiriboti. Manau, kad \u0161iandien turime dirbti su tais menininkais, atlik\u0117jais ir k\u016br\u0117jais, kurie yra atsiriboj\u0119 nuo putini\u0161kos ideologijos ir pasisak\u0119 prie\u0161 j\u0105. \u010cia reikia ai\u0161kiai skirti du dalykus: menininkai, kurie i\u0161 principo yra prie\u0161 Putino diktat\u016br\u0105 ir jo vykdom\u0105 genocid\u0105, ai\u0161kiai pasisak\u0117 prakti\u0161kai per pirm\u0105 karo savait\u0119, ta\u010diau yra ir toki\u0173, kurie pasisak\u0117 kur kas v\u0117liau, pra\u0117jus daugiau nei m\u0117nesiui nuo karo prad\u017eios, nes jiems tiesiog neliko kitos i\u0161eities&nbsp;\u2013 Vakar\u0173 \u0161ali\u0173 scenos tokiems k\u016br\u0117jams u\u017esidar\u0117\u2026<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\" id=\"attachment_22437\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-2048x1362.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-2000x1331.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-24x16.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-36x24.jpg 36w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-48x32.jpg 48w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/10.-Po-spektaklio-\u201eTurandot-LNOBT-2020-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-600x399.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Po spektaklio \u201eTurandot\u201c, LNOBT, 2020 m., Martyno Aleksos nuotrauka<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p>Taigi, mano supratimu, netur\u0117tume bendradarbiauti su rus\u0173 menininkais ar teatrais, palaikan\u010diais Putino re\u017eim\u0105, bet nemanau, kad turime u\u017edrausti kult\u016br\u0105, kuri yra sukurta prie\u0161 daugel\u012f met\u0173. Galb\u016bt tur\u0117tume atsargiau \u017ei\u016br\u0117ti \u012f k\u016br\u0117jus, kurie Soviet\u0173 S\u0105jungoje buvo vienaip ar kitaip anga\u017euoti, dirbo soviet\u0173 vald\u017eiai, bet kalbant apie P. \u010caikovsk\u012f, S. Rachmaninov\u0105, I. Stravinsk\u012f\u2026 Prie S. Prokofjevo gal ir b\u016bt\u0173 galima \u201ekabin\u0117tis\u201c d\u0117l jo ideologijos, bet, tarkim, D. \u0160ostakovi\u010dius, gyvendamas Soviet\u0173 S\u0105jungoje, vis\u0105laik jaut\u0117 vald\u017eios spaudim\u0105, i\u0161gyveno d\u0117l to ir visa tai atsispindi jo muzikoje. Taigi, tikrai nemanau, kad tur\u0117tume u\u017edrausti tokius kompozitorius kaip P. \u010caikovskis ar M. Musorgskis, tiesiog reikia suvokti kokiame kontekste, kokioje aplinkoje ji gali skamb\u0117ti.<\/p><p>Many\u010diau, kad \u0161is Meno k\u016br\u0117j\u0173 asociacijos parei\u0161kimas per daug kategori\u0161kas tod\u0117l, kad nuo rusi\u0161kos kult\u016bros nepab\u0117gsim. O jeigu u\u017edarom vis\u0105 erdv\u0119, visk\u0105, kas kult\u016bri\u0161kai susij\u0119 su Rusija, jeigu u\u017edraud\u017eiam vis\u0105 muzik\u0105, kuri buvo para\u0161yta prie\u0161 daugel\u012f met\u0173, tada tur\u0117tume neleisti pasirodyti ir tiems lietuvi\u0173 atlik\u0117jams ar dirigentams, kurie kadaise \u201ei\u0161\u0117jo\u201c rusi\u0161k\u0105 mokykl\u0105 Maskvoje ar Peterburge. Bet juk taip nebus\u2026<\/p><p>Be to, nor\u0117dami u\u017edaryti t\u0105 kult\u016brinio bendradarbiavimo su \u0161iandienine Rusija erdv\u0119, kuri yra glaud\u017eiai susijusi su re\u017eimu, netur\u0117tume kalb\u0117ti apie vis\u0105 Rusijos taut\u0105. Kad ir kaip \u0161iandien b\u016bt\u0173 sunku myl\u0117ti bet kok\u012f Rusijos piliet\u012f, kai vyksta tokie dalykai, vis tik labai svarbu \u0161viesti visuomen\u0119. Deja, turiu pripa\u017einti, jog tik\u0117jausi, kad rus\u0173 tautoje yra daugiau \u017emoni\u0173, suprantan\u010di\u0173 tikr\u0105j\u0105 situacij\u0105 ir galin\u010di\u0173 jai prie\u0161intis, kovoti, eiti dr\u0105siau\u2026<\/p><p><strong>Ar \u0161i situacija tur\u0117s \u012ftakos naujai sudaromam, o galb\u016bt ir esamam teatro repertuarui?<\/strong><\/p><p>Manau, kad tur\u0117s labai daug \u012ftakos, juk dabar repertuare turime P. \u010caikovskio oper\u0105 \u201eEugenijus Oneginas\u201c, jo balet\u0105 \u201eSpragtukas\u201c, kuris rodomas prakti\u0161kai vis\u0105 kal\u0117din\u012f laik\u0105, S. Prokofjevo \u201eLo\u0161\u0117j\u0105\u201c\u2026 Vis d\u0117lto, kaip ir min\u0117jau, seniai mirusi\u0173 k\u016br\u0117j\u0173 nereik\u0117t\u0173 liesti, tiesiog turime galvoti, kada ir kokiomis aplinkyb\u0117mis \u0161i muzika gali skamb\u0117ti.<\/p><p><strong>Oper\u0173 siu\u017eetuose meil\u0117s, aistros, dr\u0105sos ir kilnumo motyvai nuolat persipina su neapykantos, pavydo, ker\u0161to, \u017emog\u017eudys\u010di\u0173 scenomis, ta\u010diau visa tai yra teatras, tam tikra fikcija, kaskart parodanti \u017ei\u016brovui vis\u0105 \u017emogi\u0161k\u0173j\u0173 moralini\u0173 vertybi\u0173 palet\u0119. \u0160iomis dienomis toji fikcija karo akivaizdoje, deja, virto tikrove. Kiek pasikeitusi realyb\u0117 gali tur\u0117ti \u012ftakos spektakli\u0173 re\u017eis\u016brin\u0117ms vizijoms? Kaip stipriai naujai kuriami spektakliai \u201eu\u017ekraunami\u201c \u0161iandien i\u0161gyvenamomis emocijomis?<\/strong><\/p><p>Nat\u016bralu, kad tie \u012fvykiai, kurie dabar vyksta pasaulyje arba \u0161alia tav\u0119s, rezonuoja kiekvienam menininkui: b\u016btum dailininkas, re\u017eisierius ar dirigentas, tu negali likti abejingas. Pavyzd\u017eiui, teatre tur\u0117jom re\u017eisieri\u0173 konkurs\u0105 J. Offenbach\u2018o operai \u201eHofmano istorijos\u201c ir analizavom visus pateiktus darbus. Pama\u010diau, kad labai daug re\u017eisieri\u0173 bando realizuoti savo id\u0117jas b\u016btent per karo prizm\u0119.<\/p><p>Per kelis ateinan\u010dius metus, manau, tiek vizualiniame mene, tiek teatre ar muzikoje matysime daug s\u0105saj\u0173 su \u0161iais \u012fvykiais. Tiesiog ne\u012fmanoma, kad meno \u017emoni\u0173 tai visi\u0161kai nepaveikt\u0173. O jei mane veikia kaip \u017emog\u0173, \u017einoma, veiks ir kaip meninink\u0105. Dauguma \u017emoni\u0173 tiek m\u016bs\u0173 \u0161alyje, tiek pasaulyje yra neabejingi tam, kas vyksta: jie labai i\u0161gyvena, jautriai reaguoja, baiminasi. Ne i\u0161imtis ir menininkai, kurie visus savo jausmus atsine\u0161a \u012f savo veikl\u0105 ir darbus. Tai itin matyti muzikoje&nbsp;\u2013 \u010dia ne\u012fmanoma b\u016bti be savo jausm\u0173 ir emocij\u0173, juk jie yra k\u016brybos pagrindas.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\" id=\"attachment_22443\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"726\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-1024x726.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1258\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-1024x726.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-768x545.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-1536x1089.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-2048x1453.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-2000x1419.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-24x17.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-36x26.jpg 36w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-48x34.jpg 48w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/4.-J.-Naujalio-gimnazijoje-4-a-klase-1993-600x426.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>J. Naujalio gimnazijoje, 4-a klas\u0117, 1993<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>Operos ir baleto teatras yra viena svarbiausi\u0173 \u0161alies kult\u016brini\u0173 \u012fstaig\u0173, taigi, ir vyriausiasis teatro dirigentas yra ry\u0161ki kult\u016bros pasaulio fig\u016bra. Teatro dirigentu tapote prie\u0161 kelet\u0105 met\u0173, ta\u010diau iki \u0161i\u0173 pareig\u0173 paprastai tenka nueiti ilg\u0105 ir da\u017enai nelengv\u0105 keli\u0105. J\u016bs gana anksti supratote, kad norite diriguoti simfoniniam orkestrui, galb\u016bt ir operai, tad dar b\u016bdamas Kauno J. Naujalio muzikos gimnazijos dvyliktokas va\u017eiavote konsultuotis pas maestro Juoz\u0105 Domark\u0105. Ta\u010diau t\u0105kart jaunatvi\u0161k\u0105 J\u016bs\u0173 u\u017emoj\u012f ir maksimalizm\u0105 jis gerokai atv\u0117sino. K\u0105 jis Jums anuomet pasak\u0117?<\/strong><\/p><p>Jis pasak\u0117, kad tuo metu, t. y. baigus dvylika klasi\u0173, a\u0161 tikrai negaliu studijuoti simfoninio dirigavimo. Pasak jo, po \u0161e\u0161eri\u0173 ar a\u0161tuoneri\u0173 met\u0173 gal ir gal\u0117siu pabandyti studijuoti \u0161it\u0105 specialyb\u0119. Ai\u0161ku, kai tau a\u0161tuoniolika met\u0173 ir manai, kad visk\u0105 moki, \u017einai ir turi svajon\u0119 studijuoti dirigavim\u0105, tokie \u017eod\u017eiai tikrai labai nuli\u016bdina. Vis\u0173 pirma, J. Domarkas man sureng\u0117 ne\u017emoni\u0161kai sud\u0117ting\u0105 patikrinim\u0105. Dabar suprantu, kad b\u016bdamas 18-os tokio testo tikrai negal\u0117jau i\u0161laikyti. \u017dinoma, tokio egzamino a\u0161 net nesitik\u0117jau, jis buvo labai sunkus, net ir dabar atsakyti \u012f kai kuriuos klausimus man b\u016bt\u0173 nelengva. Maestro mat\u0117, kad a\u0161 dar per jaunas studijuoti min\u0117t\u0105 specialyb\u0119, galb\u016bt d\u0117l to ir parinko tokias sunkias u\u017eduotis, juk \u012f simfonin\u012f dirigavim\u0105 paprastai stojama jau pabaigus kok\u012f nors bakalaur\u0105\u2026<\/p><p><strong>Ta\u010diau \u0161is \u0161altas du\u0161as svajon\u0117s tapti dirigentu vis tik neu\u017egniau\u017e\u0117?<\/strong><\/p><p>Jeigu tuo metu b\u016b\u010diau pasidav\u0119s, dirigentu dabar tikrai neb\u016b\u010diau. Ta\u010diau tuomet ai\u0161kiai supratau, kad turiu dar pasimokyti, kad daugiau supras\u010diau apie dirigavim\u0105.<\/p><p><strong>Kauno J. Naujalio gimnazijoje baig\u0117te chorin\u012f dirigavim\u0105, v\u0117liau \u012f t\u0105 pa\u010di\u0105 specialyb\u0119 \u012fstojote Muzikos ir teatro akademijoje. Baig\u0119s bakalauro studijas ketinote i\u0161va\u017eiuoti \u012f u\u017esien\u012f. Tur\u0117jote studij\u0173 ar darbo pasi\u016blym\u0105?<\/strong><\/p><p>Tur\u0117jau i\u0161va\u017eiuoti \u012f Austrij\u0105, \u012f Grac\u0105, pagal&nbsp;Erasmus&nbsp;studij\u0173 main\u0173 program\u0105. Dirigent\u0117 Mirga Gra\u017einyt\u0117 kaip tik baig\u0117 ten studijas ir jau ruo\u0161\u0117si i\u0161vykti i\u0161 Graco, o a\u0161 tur\u0117jau atva\u017eiuoti pas jos d\u0117stytoj\u0105: Mirga i\u0161 prad\u017ei\u0173 irgi mok\u0117si chorinio dirigavimo, tik paskui simfoninio. Tur\u0117jau i\u0161va\u017eiuoti ten mokytis kaip b\u016bsimas choro dirigentas, kas grei\u010diausi ir b\u016bt\u0173 nutik\u0119, gal po met\u0173 b\u016b\u010diau perstoj\u0119s ir \u012f simfonin\u012f dirigavim\u0105, bet jau nebe pagal&nbsp;Erasmus&nbsp;program\u0105. Vis d\u0117lto tais pa\u010diais metais mane pasikviet\u0117 tas pats J. Domarkas su G. Rinkevi\u010diumi ir pasak\u0117: \u201eSi\u016blom tau stoti \u012f simfonin\u012f dirigavim\u0105, \u012f magistrant\u016br\u0105.\u201c<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\" id=\"attachment_22444\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-726x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1257\" width=\"452\" height=\"638\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-726x1024.jpg 726w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-213x300.jpg 213w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-768x1083.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-1089x1536.jpg 1089w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-1453x2048.jpg 1453w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-17x24.jpg 17w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-26x36.jpg 26w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-34x48.jpg 34w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-300x423.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m.-600x846.jpg 600w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/5.-1995-m..jpg 1532w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 452px) 100vw, 452px\" \/><figcaption><em>Namuose prie pianino, 1995 m.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>Vis tik diriguoti chorui ir simfoniniam orkestrui&nbsp;\u2013 ne tas pats. Kas pasteb\u0117jo J\u016bs\u0173 talent\u0105 ir did\u017eiul\u012f nor\u0105 diriguoti b\u016btent orkestrui?<\/strong><\/p><p>Besimokydamas chorinio dirigavimo pas prof. P. Gyl\u012f jau tur\u0117jau simfoninio dirigavimo fakultatyv\u0105 pas prof. G. Rinkevi\u010di\u0173. Kai laikiau jo \u012fskait\u0105, komisijoje buvo visi simfoninio dirigavimo katedros dirigentai, taigi, mane diriguojant mat\u0117 ir J. Domarkas, ir G. Rinkevi\u010dius, ir visi kiti\u2026 B\u016btent po to ir gavau pasi\u016blym\u0105 stoti \u012f simfonin\u012f dirigavim\u0105. Taigi, t\u0105 vasar\u0105 man reik\u0117jo apsispr\u0119sti, ar stoti \u012f simfoninio dirigavimo magistrant\u016br\u0105 Muzikos ir teatro akademijoje, nors nebuvau tikras, kad \u012fstosiu. \u017dvelgiant i\u0161 dabarties perspektyvos, gav\u0119s tok\u012f pasi\u016blym\u0105 po \u012fskaitos jau gal\u0117jau b\u016bti tikras, kad pavyks, ta\u010diau abejojau, nes\u2026 tiesiog nenor\u0117jau nudegti. Susitariau su LMTA tarptautini\u0173 ry\u0161i\u0173 skyriumi, kad jie palaukt\u0173 d\u0117l mano sprendimo va\u017eiuoti \u012f Grac\u0105 iki dirigavimo egzamino. O kai jau \u012fstojau \u012f simfonin\u012f dirigavim\u0105, \u012f magistrant\u016br\u0105, nusprend\u017eiau \u012f Grac\u0105 nebeva\u017eiuoti.<\/p><p>Vis d\u0117lto studij\u0173 prad\u017eia buvo sunki: labai daug dalyk\u0173 reik\u0117jo mokytis vienu metu, juk \u012fstojau tiesiai \u012f magistrant\u016br\u0105, tad tai, k\u0105 kiti \u0161ioje specialyb\u0117je mok\u0117si ketverius metus, tur\u0117jau i\u0161mokti vos per por\u0105. Taigi, kr\u016bvis buvo nema\u017eas, ta\u010diau prad\u017eia visada yra sunki&nbsp;\u2013 ar studijuojant, ar pirmi metai diriguojant orkestrui, ar patirtys su \u201eVilniaus miesto opera\u201c.<\/p><p>Tiesa, reikia pamin\u0117ti, kad, dar mokantis chorinio dirigavimo, did\u017eiul\u0119 \u012ftak\u0105 man padar\u0117 choro \u201eAidija\u201c vadovas Romualdas Gra\u017einis. \u0160iame chore dainavau trejus metus, tad i\u0161 R. Gra\u017einio supratau labai daug dalyk\u0173 apie muzik\u0105.<\/p><p><strong>Esate min\u0117j\u0119s, kad profesinio kelio pos\u016bkius da\u017enai lemia sutikti \u017emon\u0117s, tam tikra aplinka ar tiesiog atsitiktinumai. O koki\u0105 \u012ftak\u0105 J\u016bs\u0173 pasirinkimams tur\u0117jo \u0161eima, t\u0117vai?<\/strong><\/p><p>T\u0117v\u0173 profesijos netur\u0117jo nieko bendra su muzika: mama buvo buhalter\u0117, o t\u0117tis dirbo \u012fvairius darbus: yra dirb\u0119s fabrike, po to su mamos broliu \u012fk\u016br\u0117 firm\u0105, kuri gamino raktus, spynas. Vis d\u0117lto t\u0117vai mat\u0117 mano polink\u012f muzikai ir jau nuo ketveri\u0173 penkeri\u0173 met\u0173 leido mane \u012f parengiam\u0105j\u0105 grup\u0119 muzikos mokykloje. Po to, su\u017einoj\u0119 apie J. Naujalio gimnazij\u0105, kurioje mokoma bendrojo lavinimo dalyk\u0173 ir muzikos, nuved\u0117 mane ten.<\/p><p>Taigi, t\u0117vai pamat\u0117 mano polink\u012f muzikai ir paskatino ta linkme dirbti. O po to did\u017eiausia j\u0173 pagalba buvo tai, kad jie leido tam tikrus dalykus spr\u0119sti savaranki\u0161kai, net jei daug ko ir negal\u0117jo suprasti\u2026 T\u0117vai labai pasitik\u0117jo manimi, o po a\u0161tuoneri\u0173 met\u0173, praleist\u0173 mokykloje, jau visi\u0161kai nebesiki\u0161o \u012f muzikinius sprendimus: kur va\u017eiuoti, kur stoti, pas k\u0105 stoti, k\u0105 studijuoti\u2026 Jau paskutin\u0117se klas\u0117se visus su profesija susijusius dalykus sprend\u017eiau savaranki\u0161kai, k\u0105 jau kalb\u0117ti apie laik\u0105, kai i\u0161va\u017eiavau mokytis \u012f Vilni\u0173.<\/p><p><strong>B\u016btent \u010dia, sostin\u0117je, prasid\u0117jo J\u016bs\u0173 draugyst\u0117 su \u201eVilniaus miesto opera\u201c. Pradedan\u010dio dirigento kelyje Jus lyd\u0117jo ne tik maestro G. Rinkevi\u010dius, bet ir \u0161ios trup\u0117s \u012fkv\u0117p\u0117ja, charizmati\u0161koji re\u017eisier\u0117 Dalia Ibelhauptait\u0117. Kaip prisimenate bendravim\u0105 ir bendradarbiavim\u0105 su \u0161ia i\u0161skirtine asmenybe?<\/strong><\/p><p>Nors Dalia dabar re\u010diau b\u016bna Lietuvoje, su ja ir toliau gra\u017eiai bendraujame. Gal\u0117\u010diau sakyti, kad ji anuomet mane paglobojo, i\u0161 jos i\u0161mokau daug subtilybi\u0173, pavyzd\u017eiui, kaip dirbti su re\u017eisieriumi, kas jam spektaklyje svarbu, kiek jam reikalingas dirigentas, kaip diriguoti ne tik muzikin\u0119 vyksmo dal\u012f, bet ir vis\u0105 spektakl\u012f. Ma\u010diau, kaip Daliai svarbu, kad dirigentas diriguot\u0173 ne tik muzik\u0105, bet ir pat\u012f spektakl\u012f, ai\u0161kiai suprasdamas jo dramaturgij\u0105. Nors i\u0161mokau i\u0161 jos labai daug dalyk\u0173, labiausiai esu d\u0117kingas u\u017e pasitik\u0117jim\u0105 jaunu \u017emogumi. Ji dav\u0117 man \u0161ans\u0105 mokytis bei praktikuotis. Galiu pasakyti, jog \u0161iandien Operos ir baleto teatre esu vyriausiasis dirigentas b\u016btent tod\u0117l, kad sukaupiau mil\u017eini\u0161k\u0105 patirt\u012f \u201eVilniaus miesto operoje\u201c, kurioje dirbau kartu su Dalia.<\/p><p><strong>\u201eVilniaus miesto operoje\u201c \u012fvyko ir svarbus J\u016bs\u0173 asmeninio gyvenimo pos\u016bkis\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p>Taip, b\u016btent \u010dia susipa\u017einau su \u017emona Radvile.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\" id=\"attachment_22438\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-1024x675.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1259\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-1024x675.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-300x198.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-768x506.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-1536x1012.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-2048x1349.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-2000x1318.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-24x16.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-36x24.jpg 36w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-48x32.jpg 48w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/8.-Su-zmona-Radvile-2020-m.-P.-Vysniausko-nuotrauka-600x395.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Su \u017emona Radvile, 2020 m. Petro Vy\u0161niausko nuotrauka<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>Ar \u0161iame kolektyve prasid\u0117jo ir J\u016bs\u0173, kaip simfoninio orkestro dirigento, kelias?<\/strong><\/p><p>\u201eVilniaus miesto operoje\u201c diriguodamas Lietuvos valstybiniam simfoniniam orkestrui daugiau dirbau su juo kaip operos dirigentas, da\u017eniausiai&nbsp;\u2013 re\u017eis\u016brin\u0117se repeticijose kartu su solistais, kartais pad\u0117damas diriguoti ir orkestrines partijas. Ta\u010diau labai daug dirbau su \u0161iuo orkestru ir atskirai nuo oper\u0173: nuolat asistavau G. Rinkevi\u010diui, dirigavau prakti\u0161kai visas simfonines programas, kurias tik jis diriguodavo. Taigi, tur\u0117jau daug galimybi\u0173 praktikuotis ir dirbti su profesionaliu simfoniniu orkestru. O tai ir buvo did\u017eioji mokykla, nes tai, ko i\u0161mokstame teori\u0161kai, yra tik ma\u017ea dalis to, ko m\u016bs\u0173 profesijoje reikia prakti\u0161kai. Labai d\u017eiaugiuosi, kad tur\u0117jau toki\u0105 galimyb\u0119.<\/p><p><strong>Diriguoti simfonin\u0119 muzik\u0105 ir oper\u0105 yra du skirtingi dalykai. Operoje be orkestro yra ir did\u017eiulis b\u016brys kit\u0173 atlik\u0117j\u0173. K\u0105 rei\u0161kia diriguoti oper\u0105, kuo tai skiriasi nuo simfoninio dirigavimo?<\/strong><\/p><p>Simfoninio dirigavimo mastelis yra \u0161iek tiek ma\u017eesnis, formos at\u017evilgiu ma\u017eesn\u0117 apimtis, bet esminis skirtumas\u00a0\u2013 operoje yra \u017eymiai daugiau \u017emoni\u0173, didesni atstumai nuo dirigento iki artist\u0173 scenoje, be to, tiesiog techni\u0161kai visi turi b\u016bti kartu, o esminis dalykas, kaip jau min\u0117jau \u2013 diriguoti ne tik muzik\u0105, bet diriguoti spektakl\u012f, jo eig\u0105. Nuo operos dirigento priklauso veiksmas scenoje: muzikos ir viso spektaklio tempas, dramaturgija, kertiniai vyksmo l\u016b\u017eiai, svarbiausi ta\u0161kai\u00a0\u2013 kaip \u012f juos ateini, kaip juos u\u017ebaigi. \u017dinoma, operoje u\u017e spektakl\u012f atsakingas ne tik dirigentas\u00a0\u2013 didel\u0117 ir re\u017eisieriaus \u012ftaka. Vis d\u0117lto spek\u00adtak\u00adlio metu nuo jo jau niekas nebepriklauso, savo darb\u0105 jis atlieka iki spektaklio, o vienintelis \u017emogus, kuris dar gali ka\u017ekaip pakreipti spektakl\u012f, yra dirigentas.<\/p><p>Simfonijoje paprastai n\u0117ra konkre\u010dios fabulos, tad da\u017eniausiai patys bandom susigalvoti simfonij\u0173 siu\u017eet\u0105, nors, \u017einoma, yra ir programini\u0173 simfonini\u0173 k\u016brini\u0173. Na, o operoje visada yra ai\u0161kus siu\u017eetas ir tu \u017einai, k\u0105 diriguoji, kokius jausmus i\u0161gyvena herojai\u2026 Be to, darbas operoje susideda i\u0161 daugyb\u0117s segment\u0173: \u010dia dirigentas dirba ne tik su orkestru, bet ir su kiekvienu solistu atskirai, analizuoja jo vaidmen\u012f, persona\u017e\u0105 ir t. t.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\" id=\"attachment_22435\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-681x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1261\" width=\"450\" height=\"677\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-681x1024.jpg 681w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-768x1154.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1022x1536.jpg 1022w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1362x2048.jpg 1362w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-16x24.jpg 16w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-24x36.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-32x48.jpg 32w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-300x451.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-600x902.jpg 600w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/9.-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka.jpg 1437w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><figcaption><em>Su \u0161eima: kair\u0117je \u2013 brolis Edvardas su \u017emona Agne, centre \u2013 Ri\u010dardas su <\/em><br><em>\u017emona Radvile, de\u0161in\u0117je \u2013 Radvil\u0117s sesuo Teodora ir jos vyras Andrius, <\/em><br><em>2021 m., Martyno Aleksos nuotrauka.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p class=\"has-white-background-color has-background\"><strong>Kalb\u0117jome apie sutiktas ry\u0161kias asmenybes, mokytojus, tur\u0117jusius \u012ftakos J\u016bs\u0173 gyvenime, ta\u010diau, kiek \u017einau, \u0161iandien ir pats mokytojaujate Nacionalin\u0117je M. K. \u010ciurlionio men\u0173 mokykloje. \u0160iais laikais jauno \u017emogaus gyvenimas neatsiejamas nuo technologij\u0173, ta\u010diau, kaip manote, ar \u0161iuolaikin\u0117 pedagogika sp\u0117ja koja kojon su jaunimo gyvenimu tempu? Kaip apskritai regite \u0161iandienin\u0119 pedagogik\u0105?<\/strong><\/p><p>Manau, kad jaunam \u017emogui svarbu ne tik technologijos, bet ir mokytojai, ta\u010diau kei\u010diantis mokini\u0173 kartai, svarbu keistis ir mokytojams. Akivaizdu, kad vyresniems mokytojams darosi vis sunkiau pavyti jaun\u0105 \u017emog\u0173, taip jau yra ir nieko \u010dia nepadarysi. Tod\u0117l labai svarbu, kad mokytoj\u0173 grandyse b\u016bt\u0173 kart\u0173 kaita, nes nemanau, kad yra gerai, kai tarp mokini\u0173 ir mokytoj\u0173 yra per didelis am\u017eiau skirtumas. O ateinantiems jauniems mokytojams reikia laiko: juk ne visi turi Dievo duot\u0105 dovan\u0105 mokyti, daugumai reikalinga praktika.<\/p><p>Manau, kad man nesunku dirbti su vaikais, nes nesijau\u010diu labai vyresnis u\u017e juos, nors, ties\u0105 pasakius, kai prie\u0161 10 met\u0173 prad\u0117jau mokytojauti, jau\u010diausi visai arti mokini\u0173. \u0160iandien yra kitaip: man nebereikia perd\u0117tai stengtis ar ka\u017ekaip kitaip \u012frodyti savo, kaip mokytojo, vert\u0119, jau\u010diu, kad dabar jau galiu b\u016bti mokiniams autoritetas.<\/p><p><strong>I\u0161 ties\u0173, paaugliams ypa\u010d reikalingas autoritetas\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p>Man atrodo, kad mokytojui labai svarbu vesti, palyd\u0117ti mokin\u012f, o ne diktuoti. \u0160iandien su \u0161ypsena atsimenu mokytoj\u0173 atrankos\u00a0<em>\u010ciurlionk\u0117je\u00a0<\/em>konkurs\u0105: niekaip neapsisprend\u017eiau\u00a0\u2013 eiti ten dirbti ar ne, bet, galvoju: \u201eai, nuva\u017eiuosiu\u201c. Atva\u017eiavau tiesiai i\u0161 turgaus, su motoroleriu (juokiasi)\u2026 Ateinu \u012f konkurs\u0105 galvodamas, kad \u010dia bus paprastas pokalbis, o ten\u00a0\u2013 direktorius, psichologas ir dar keturi dirigavimo mokytojai! O ir kandidat\u0173 nema\u017eai\u2026 Klausimus u\u017edav\u0117 tikrai rimtus, o a\u0161 buvau nieko nepasikartoj\u0119s\u2026Tikrai nustebau papuol\u0119s \u012f tok\u012f rimt\u0105 konkurs\u0105 (juokiasi).<\/p><p>Na, o prad\u0117j\u0119s mokyti, band\u017eiau susikurti tam tikrus savo pedagoginius principus ir nors teorini\u0173 pedagogikos \u017eini\u0173 tikrai tur\u0117jau, dirbdamas su vaikais vis prisimindavau, kas man kadais buvo neai\u0161ku, kas man trukd\u0117, tad stengiausi \u012f tai atkreipti d\u0117mes\u012f. Be to, man buvo svarbu, tarkim, dirigavimo judes\u012f paai\u0161kinti taip, kad mokinys tai \u012fsisavint\u0173 i\u0161 esm\u0117s, o ne pavir\u0161utini\u0161kai: \u201eAi, daryk dabar, kaip sakau, o v\u0117liau pats suprasi.\u201c Kartais svarbiau net ne i\u0161mokyti diriguoti ar groti, o padiskutuoti su mokiniu, u\u017eduodant jam klausimus. Ir jei jis, o ne mokytojas, atsako teisingai, matau, kad i\u0161 tikr\u0173j\u0173 supranta.<\/p><p>Vis tik did\u017eiausias mano, kaip mokytojo, tr\u016bkumas yra tai, kad esu per daug u\u017eimtas, juk mokytojo darbe labai svarbu reguliarus kontaktas su mokiniais.<\/p><p><strong>B\u016bdamas teatro dirigentu, regis, d\u0117l u\u017eimtumo gal\u0117tum\u0117t ir nebemokytojauti\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p>Ties\u0105 sakant, mokytojauti prad\u0117jau tod\u0117l, kad anuomet, prie\u0161 de\u0161imt met\u0173, netur\u0117jau darbo. Buvo toks sunkus momentas: baigiau studijas, ta\u010diau nebuvau tikras d\u0117l ateities\u2026 \u017dinojau, kad tikriausiai mane kvies dirbti pas G. Rinkevi\u010di\u0173 ar D. Ibelhauptait\u0119, bet nieko negal\u0117jau prognozuoti d\u0117l finans\u0173, netur\u0117jau joki\u0173 stabili\u0173 pajam\u0173. O pedagoginis darbas man leido b\u016bti ramiam, kad t\u0105 ar kit\u0105 m\u0117nes\u012f gausiu bent kelis \u0161imtus lit\u0173. Po to jau supratau, kad galiu ir&nbsp;frylansinti&nbsp;ir kitaip u\u017esidirbti&nbsp;\u2013 nepra\u017e\u016bsiu. Visgi mokytojauti man labai patiko ir t\u0105 tebedarau iki \u0161iol.<\/p><p>Savoti\u0161k\u0105 pedagogin\u012f amplua Jums teko i\u0161bandyti ir neseniai LRT televizijoje rodytame muzikiniame projekte \u201eMaestro\u201c, kuriame dalyvavote kaip komisijos narys. \u0160is projektas i\u0161 kai kuri\u0173 klasikin\u0117s muzikos atstov\u0173 susilauk\u0117 kritikos kaip neva menkinantis ir banaliai parodantis sud\u0117ting\u0105 dirigento profesij\u0105. Kod\u0117l nusprend\u0117te jame dalyvauti?<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft size-large is-resized\" id=\"attachment_22439\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-684x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1254\" width=\"436\" height=\"653\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-684x1024.jpg 684w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-768x1150.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1025x1536.jpg 1025w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-1367x2048.jpg 1367w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-16x24.jpg 16w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-24x36.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-32x48.jpg 32w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-300x449.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka-600x899.jpg 600w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/7.-Ruosiantis-LNOBT-premjerai-\u201eSventasis-pavasaris-2021-m.-M.-Aleksos-nuotrauka.jpg 1442w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 436px) 100vw, 436px\" \/><figcaption><em>Ruo\u0161iantis LNOBT premjerai \u201e\u0160ventasis pavasaris\u201c, 2021 m. <\/em><br><em>M. Aleksos nuotrauka<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p>O kod\u0117l ne? Pirmiausia, b\u016btina atskirti \u017eanrus. Mes juk neduodam \u017emogui, at\u0117jusiam i\u0161 gatv\u0117s ar tur\u0117jusiam vos vien\u0105 dirigavimo pamok\u0105, diriguoti spektaklio operos teatre. Bet jeigu per TV \u0161ou galima populiarinti klasikin\u0119 muzik\u0105, dirigavim\u0105, apie tai kalb\u0117ti ir pristatyti dirigentus, dirigavimo ypatumus, kod\u0117l nepasinaudoti tokia galimybe? Matau \u010dia tik pliusus. O kad toks projektas menkina dirigavimo men\u0105 ir dirigento profesij\u0105&nbsp;\u2013 nesutinku. Juk \u017emon\u0117s \u017eymiai daugiau suprato, su\u017einojo apie dirigavim\u0105 ir pamat\u0117 dirigento darb\u0105 visai kitaip. Per TV \u0161ou galima \u0161viesti dal\u012f visuomen\u0117s, kuri galb\u016bt niekada neateis \u012f teatr\u0105 ir nesupras, k\u0105 dirigentas veikia teatre. Taigi, atskirkim \u017eanrus.<\/p><p><strong>O gal kaip tik, pa\u017ei\u016br\u0117j\u0119 toki\u0105 laid\u0105, \u017emon\u0117s ateis \u012f teatr\u0105?<\/strong><\/p><p>Taip, \u017einau, kad jau yra toki\u0173 \u017emoni\u0173, be to, atsirado ir vaik\u0173, kurie, pa\u017ei\u016br\u0117j\u0119 projekt\u0105, labai u\u017esived\u0117 diriguoti! Taigi, paliet\u0117m t\u0105 auditorij\u0105, kuri \u0161iaip galb\u016bt neateit\u0173 \u012f teatr\u0105. Na, o kad gal\u0117tum kritikuoti, reikia pamatyti laid\u0105, vadinasi, ir muzikantai, menininkai, ra\u0161\u0119 kritikuojan\u010dius&nbsp;postus&nbsp;feisbuke, t\u0105 laid\u0105 \u017ei\u016br\u0117davo! (Juokiasi).<\/p><p>I\u0161 ties\u0173, dirigavimas koncerte ar spektaklyje yra tik nedidel\u0117 dirigento darbo dalis, did\u017ei\u0105j\u0105 dal\u012f sudaro darbas su partit\u016bromis, repeticijos, program\u0173 sudarymas, vadybinis ar administracinis darbas, ta\u010diau dirigentui, stovin\u010diam prie\u0161 didel\u012f b\u016br\u012f muzikant\u0173, nei\u0161vengiamai reikia tam tikr\u0173 savybi\u0173: lyderyst\u0117s, autoriteto, geb\u0117jimo vadovauti, \u012ftikinti savo sumanyta interpretacija, gal\u0173 gale&nbsp;\u2013 pasitik\u0117jimo savo j\u0117gomis. Esate sak\u0119s, kad prad\u017eioje nebuvo paprasta atsistoti prie\u0161 orkestr\u0105, bet dorotis su jauduliu pad\u0117jo psichoterapija. Dauguma psichoterapin\u0119 pagalb\u0105 link\u0119 laikyti priva\u010diu dalyku, ta\u010diau J\u016bs apie tai gana dr\u0105siai kalbate vie\u0161ai. Kod\u0117l?<\/p><p>Manau, jog svarbu keisti vyraujan\u010di\u0105 nuomon\u0119 apie psichikos terapij\u0105, nes paprastai vyresn\u0117 karta galvoja, kad psichoterapija yra tik \u0117jimas pas psichiatr\u0105, o jei pas j\u012f lankaisi&nbsp;\u2013 esi i\u0161prot\u0117j\u0119s ar turi rimt\u0173 psichikos b\u0117d\u0173. Jau\u010diu, kad vyresnei kartai psichoterapija yra tarsi ka\u017ekokia stigma: eiti pas psicholog\u0105 ar psichoterapeut\u0105 rei\u0161kia, kad tau yra blogai. Betgi neb\u016btinai: juk kartais einam pas gydytoj\u0105 tiesiog profilakti\u0161kai pasitikrinti sveikatos. Lygiai taip pat profilakti\u0161kai galima nueiti ir pas psicholog\u0105. Taigi, apie psichoterapij\u0105 kalbu dr\u0105siau d\u0117l to, kad, manau, jog tai gali pad\u0117ti pakeisti po\u017ei\u016br\u012f, padr\u0105sinti nueiti pas specialist\u0105. Man atrodo, kad psichologin\u0117 higiena yra tokia pat svarbi, kaip ir fizin\u0117. I\u0161 tik\u00adr\u0173\u00adj\u0173 Lietuvoje psichoterapij\u0105 mes dar tik atrandame, nors pasaulyje jos svarba \u017emogaus sveikatai jau seniai nekelia klausim\u0173. Mums, lietuviams, dar labai stipriai reikia keisti savo supratim\u0105 apie \u0161i\u0105 srit\u012f.<\/p><p>Ties\u0105 sakant, pats terapij\u0105 rinkausi ne tik d\u0117l dirigavimo&nbsp;\u2013 scenos baim\u0119 pa\u017e\u012fstu, su ja susitvarkiau. Be to, artistas turi jausti \u0161iek tiek lengvo nerimo, jaudulio prie\u0161 \u017eengdamas \u012f scen\u0105. Jeigu visai nesijaudinu prie\u0161 koncert\u0105 ar spektakl\u012f, tai rei\u0161kia, kad ka\u017ekas negerai: b\u016btina \u0161iek tiek pasijaudinti, kad \u012fgautum tam tikros emocin\u0117s \u012fkrovos, pakyl\u0117tumo. Psichoterapij\u0105 rinkausi ir d\u0117l savirefleksijos, ir d\u0117l tam tikr\u0173 dalyk\u0173, kuriuos noriu savyje patobulinti. Kitas dalykas: patiriu nema\u017e\u0105 emocin\u012f kr\u016bv\u012f d\u0117l savo pozicijos teatre, kaip vyriausiasis dirigentas, turiu priimti kartais ir nelengvus sprendimus, taigi reikia tas emocijas ka\u017ekaip \u201ei\u0161krauti\u201c, su ka\u017ekuo pasikalb\u0117ti.<\/p><p><strong>Vienoje tinklalaid\u0117je apie teatro darbo u\u017ekulisius teko matyti, kaip J\u016bs, prie\u0161 \u017eengdamas \u012f scen\u0105 diriguoti spektaklio, persi\u017eegnojate. K\u0105 Jums rei\u0161kia kry\u017eiaus \u017eenklas?<\/strong><\/p><p>Man atrodo, kad \u0161iuo \u017eenklu visk\u0105 atiduodu \u012f Auk\u0161\u010diausiojo rankas, \u0161iuo gestu pra\u0161au Jo pagalbos, atiduodu Jam visk\u0105, k\u0105 t\u0105 akimirk\u0105 ruo\u0161iuosi daryti.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\" id=\"attachment_22436\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1262\" width=\"458\" height=\"458\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-2000x2000.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/oldoriginal.zurnalaskelione.lt\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/6.-Portugalijoje-2017-m.-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 458px) 100vw, 458px\" \/><figcaption><em>Portugalijoje, 2017 m.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>Beje, simboli\u0161kai prisiminiau ir J\u016bs\u0173, kaip menininko, \u012fvertinim\u0105&nbsp;\u2013 Auksin\u012f scenos kry\u017ei\u0173\u2026 Kiek Jums reik\u0161mingas \u0161is apdovanojimas?<\/strong><\/p><p>Anuomet, kai buvau visai jaunas ir tik bepradedantis menininkas, toks apdovanojimas gal ir buvo svarbus, o dabar man did\u017eiausias \u012fvertinimas&nbsp;\u2013 gerai pavyk\u0119s spektaklis, kai jam pasibaigus supranti, kad k\u0105 tik \u012fvyko ka\u017ekas \u012fsp\u016bdingo, ko negali apsakyti \u017eod\u017eiais, tik patiri neapsakom\u0105 d\u017eiaugsm\u0105. \u0160is jausmas ir yra did\u017eiausias atlygis, apdovanojimas. Manau, tai tikriausiai \u012fvyksta tuomet, kai ne tik pats diriguoji, bet ir leidiesi vedamas Jo&nbsp;\u2013 Auk\u0161\u010diausiojo.<\/p><p>Ties\u0105 pasakius, nor\u0117\u010diau, kad gyvenime daugiau Jis diriguot\u0173, nes \u017emogus da\u017enai pamir\u0161ti, kad ne pats esi savo gyvenimo \u0161eimininkas ir tur\u0117tum daugiau visko deleguoti Jam, daugiau pasitik\u0117ti Jo vedimu. Tada bus ma\u017eiau konflikt\u0173, nesusipratim\u0173. O \u017eegnojimasis man svarbus, jau daug met\u0173 tai darau prie\u0161 eidamas \u012f scen\u0105.<\/p><p>Dabar da\u017enai prie\u0161 spektakl\u012f ne tik persi\u017eegnoju, bet ir pagalvoju apie mam\u0105, kuri neseniai i\u0161\u0117jo. Su\u017einojau tai prie\u0161 pat \u0161i\u0173 met\u0173 naujametin\u0119 \u201eTraviat\u0105\u201c. Nebuvo \u012fmanoma, kad mane kas nors pakeist\u0173. Tada tik paskambinau kun. K\u0119stu\u010diui Dvareckui, nes ne\u017einojau, kaip i\u0161b\u016bti t\u0105 akimirk\u0105, tur\u0117jau ka\u017ekaip greitai save surinkti. Beje, spektaklis buvo labai geras, nors niekas daugiau ne\u017einojo apie tai, kas nutiko. Dabar \u201eTraviata\u201c yra tas spektaklis, kai prie\u0161 eidamas diriguoti visada prisimenu mam\u0105\u2026<\/p><p><strong>Galb\u016bt prisiminim\u0105 palydi ir malda\u2026<\/strong><\/p><p>\u017dinoma, malda yra svarbi mano gyvenimo dalis, tik galb\u016bt per ma\u017eai jai skiriu d\u0117mesio. Gyvendamas sostin\u0117s senamiestyje galiu nesunkiai nukeliauti \u012f bet kuri\u0105 ba\u017eny\u010di\u0105, ta\u010diau ypatinga vieta man yra Dievo Gailestingumo \u0161ventov\u0117: \u012f j\u0105 u\u017eeinu kaskart, kai noriu ilgiau pab\u016bti maldoje, tyloje, gilesniame susikaupime\u2026 Malda \u017emogui i\u0161 ties\u0173 reikalinga, nes tik ji ir padeda i\u0161b\u016bti tokias akimirkas.<\/p><p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>Kalbino Lina Mikalauskien\u0117<\/em><\/p><p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>Straipsnis iliustruotas Ri\u010dardo \u0160umilos asmeninio archyvo nuotraukomis<\/em><\/p><p class=\"has-text-align-left\">&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/8diena.lt\/produktas\/zurnalas-kelione-2022-m-nr-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Kelion\u0117<\/em>&nbsp;2022 m. Nr. 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